I'm sure most of you have heard the term load order when modding your game, be it on a forum, modding site or even on my own discord. But what does it do and why is it important? More specifically, how does this relate to the mod's installation order?
What is the loading order?
Let's start with the first question. The load order is exactly as it sounds, it is the order in which the ESP and ESM files are loaded into the game. This process takes place when you start the game for the first time. Remember that these files tell the game what changes are included in a mod. If you need a better refresher on what these files do and what file mods are, check out the MO2 intro video in the top right corner. At this point, you should have the information under control.
Okay, the next logical question is why does the loading order of these files matter? To answer that, I'll give you a chance. Let's say you have 2 mods that alter an NPC, for example Nazim. Well, the last mod uploaded would have the final say on the changes. These types of changes can sometimes lead to groundbreaking conflicts, so a well-organized order can eliminate many of them. But this conflict is not resolved by the order of installation of the mod? no And this is where it can get a bit confusing.
Load order vs. install order
To better understand the difference between load order and install order, let's divide game changes created by mods into two categories. The first type of change is the one that is handled entirely by the plugin file, whether it's an ESM or an ESP. Also, these changes do not require any other files to take effect.
The second type of change is the one made using other files, be they textures, meshes, scripts, etc. These changes have hints in the plugins that tell the game where to find the external files. When we deal with the installation order, we only deal with the last of these two types of changes. That is, only direct filename conflicts. In the case of the loading order, on the other hand, we are dealing with changes that were made internally within one of the plugin files mentioned above. So if plugins 1 and 2 switch Nazim's attire, only the last plugin loaded will have a noticeable impact on gameplay.
Now if that was confusing bear with me because there's a little more to it than that. The load order also affects the order in which the BSA files are loaded into the game. This means that if there are two identical files in each archive, the file contained in the BSA of the last loaded plugin will appear in the game. Again, seriously, go back and watch my MO2 intro video and really remember these files. Basically what this means is that the BSA files are loaded first, followed by any loose files you might have. That is, individual files always take precedence over anything contained within a BSA file.
The loading order is very important.
So if you missed it, that's okay, just rewind the video and listen again. Sometimes I still have a hard time understanding these things. Just do your best to remember this information as it really is the foundation of what the Bethesda mod is all about. If you can do this, you'll have a much easier time resolving mod conflicts, fixing bugs, and actually getting through some frustrating modding moments. Okay let's move on to Mod Organizer 2 so I can show you where to find your load order.
Load order in MO2
In MO2, you can easily see the current load order of your ESMs and ESPs in the Plugins tab in the right pane. If you click and hold on any of the plugins that are not grayed out, you can adjust this loading order manually. Grays are part of the base game, so Skyrim, the DLCs, and the update are all included in the game folder. In the old days of Bethesda modding, before we had fancy tools for sorting the load order, we had to change this manually in the game launcher. This practically meant knowing the changes created by each mod and then organizing them so that there were no game-changing conflicts. Something perfectly doable with a few mods, but a much more difficult task with hundreds of mods.
While now you should be aware of the general changes made by each mod, that kind of broad knowledge is no longer required. Enter the Load Order Optimization Tool, or LOOT for short. This handy little program reduces the learning curve of mod data by automatically sorting and arranging the load order to best fit a so-called master load order list.
This is how LOOT works
The main list is exactly what it sounds like, at least more or less. If you took every mod that ever existed for Skyrim and put them together in one giant load order so everything was in the "right" place, you would have a master LOOT list. Well, that's an ideal world. In case you didn't know, Skyrim has a 255 plugin limit. At this point the game just won't load, so obviously there's no way you're going to be using that many mods, even with workarounds. It's not like you want it.
Secondly, many mods are simply not compatible with each other or cause major problems, so you should avoid using them together anyway. But if you're a regular, smart user making sure your load order is free from such conflicts, you'll find using LOOT to sort your load order very useful, especially if you're a beginner or just someone who tests mods frequently . So this looks great! Now let me tell you about the real world limitations of this tool.
First of all, as far as I know, each plugin on the main LOOT list is categorized on a case-by-case basis. If you know better let me know, it shouldn't affect the validity of this point anyway. This means that with every major and sometimes minor update to a plugin, there is no way to be 100% sure using LOOT that the parent list information for that plugin is correct because something has changed. . Well, sure, most updates won't add anything major at the moment in Skyrim's modding years, and some mods have made it to the final version, but it's still something to keep in mind.
Where LOOT gets a bit sketchy is in patching plugins that fix issues between another mod or two. And if you're using some sort of patch you made yourself like a Creation Kit mod, hit patch or other spawned plugin, for me that's PerMa, you can forget about LOOT by sorting them without your help. You may not know what they are and that's okay, I'll cover them in the future, just keep this information in mind. The other thing is that you also sacrifice the cleanliness of a self-managed load order, since visually LOOT seems about as organized as a typical college degree.
LOOT is awesome, use it
With that out of the way, I don't want to stop you from using this tool. If you are a beginner I would actually encourage you to use it as it dramatically lowers the knowledge curve when it comes to knowing what each mod has been up to for the last 8 years. And in most cases, it'll even save your ass by spotting any incompatibilities you missed because you didn't read the Posts tab on Nexus. Indicator.
Okay, that was long and wordy. Let's go ahead and install the damn thing. Access the official LOOT github at loot.github.io. Click the big download button and select loot.installer.exe on the next page. This is of course a tool, so it won't be downloaded to the MO2 even if you got it through the Nexus. Run the installer from your browser or downloads folder. Choose your native language. Point the installer to where you want LOOT to be installed. For us, this is in our Tools folder, or Modding Utilities, whatever you called it in the first video. Click OK and Next. We won't create a desktop shortcut as LOOT needs to run in MO2 anyway. and install. Go ahead and remove the loot because again that won't do anything for us. Go, done.
Now if we open MO2 and check the executable dropdown box, we will see that the MO2 developers were kind enough to find the LOOT for us. If for some reason LOOT isn't there, add it like any other tool. Click Edit. Name it LOOT. In the binary, navigate to the Loot installation folder, select and add LOOT.exe. Easy.
Before I go ahead and run the loot, I want to point out the review button here. I know it's really accessible and clickbaity like the title of this video, but for heaven's sake don't use it. You don't get any of the benefits of running LOOT fully, and it further obfuscates the sorting of the load order, which isn't inherently a foolproof process. At least the full LOOT app will show serious modding conflicts and give you some level of control when ordering. Go ahead and run LOOT from the list of executables.
Alright, now is probably a good time to say that I've switched to my actual load order for these tutorials. At this point I think you're knowledgeable enough to realize that everyone's load order is different, so don't panic if you see my mod list is wildly different than yours. If you haven't already, please do so. Also, I'm tired of changing game installs. Anyway, let's go through everything a beginner like you needs to know about LOOT. Not that there's much to it, because LOOT has a really nice interface.
Let's start with sorting, this is done with the icon of 3 horizontal bars in the upper right corner. When you do this, two things will happen. LOOT automatically updates your main list of mods and obviously sorts their load order. This is when most beginners click and start playing. Do not do that. Check out the general information instead. This is essentially a quick overview of everything LOOT detected with your load order.
Obviously, the revision and date of the master list is the version of your master list and its publication date. Total plugins are all plugins in the virtual directory and active plugins are only those loaded by the game. Total messages are all messages marked LOOT after being examined in their load order. That leaves the other 3, plugin warnings, errors, and dirty messages, your main concern. If we scroll down we can see our plugin load order, it's synced with MO2 so what you see is the same after you close the app.
Most of the messages you should see don't have highlighted items. This is only important information that you should read and take into account. Not necessarily something that poses a problem.
Warnings are highlighted in yellow and indicate issues detected by LOOT. They are usually easily correctable. Most of the time the warnings just tell you that you are missing the necessary patches for 2 mods to work properly. LOOT will actually tell you where to find them and sometimes even link you to their pages. The other type of alert is a dirty plugin notification. These need to be cleaned up with SSEEdit, I'll talk about that in a video or two after this one, so don't worry if you don't already know about it.
The errors are really easy to spot, they are marked in red. These issues usually indicate that there are two mods that just don't work together. In that case, it's probably best to examine them more closely and figure out why they're not working. Then uninstall one or live with the consequences. As you can see here, LOOT tells me that the Immersive Citizens mod is not compatible with JK's Skyrim. It even links us to the mod's compatibility page. But that's a bunch of nonsense. So look at this example of a time when LOOT is wrong. Remember that at the end of the day it is your responsibility to find these bugs, so I always recommend reading mod descriptions and posts.
Example of LOOT restrictions
Let me tell you what is happening in my specific case. While it's true that Immersive Citizens wasn't designed for use with JK's Skyrim, and that Immersive Citizens won't retain all of its features, the average individual would be hard pressed to find anything extraordinary using them together. This is one of those moments where the LOOT developers take the mod author's words for fact, but what they don't consider is the context.
You see, the author of the Immersive Citizens mod actually claims that any mods that change IC behavior in ANY way are incompatible. While you're right on one point, I think you should tell users to decide for themselves whether they're willing to accept the compromises. But then again, I don't have a mod with nearly 4 million unique downloads either, so I don't know what it's like to be bombarded with questions from non-researchers...or me. ..? Regardless, the moral of the story is: LOOT is not an omniscient machine. So read everything it says and decide for yourself if it's correct.
As you can see I also have many other warnings, most of them are related to patches that I've merged so LOOT doesn't recognize them. The rest are dirty plugins that I save for the SSEEdit video. Now that I've gone through everything and made sure nothing is missing, I can click Apply at the top and that saves the load order.
Set priorities for the manual load order
The last thing I want to show you is how to manually tell LOOT where to load plugins. This is useful if you make a mistake and load a plugin before something you shouldn't. Of course you can always do this directly in MO2 by clicking and dragging the plugins, but you have to do it again next time you order from LOOT. The easiest way is to click on the 3 dots icon for the misplaced plugin. I show it in the Dragonborn DLC, even though it's placed correctly, and select Edit Metadata.
As you can see a new menu will appear and if we select load later we will see a list of plugins that Dragonborn needs to load later. LOOT already has Dawnguard and Hearthfires listed, but also adds Update.esm by clicking the plus icon. After that I type update.esm in the filename and click on disk to save. Vwalla, now Dragonborn will certainly load after the update, also that wasn't necessary since LOOT initially placed it correctly, but now you know what to do when it's not. Dragonborn also now has a profile icon to indicate that we've added our own custom edits.
At this point we can close LOOT and are ready to go. Obviously there's more to LOOT so feel free to explore more if you want, but that's the bottom line. In the future I will be making a video covering everything LOOT has to offer, but that's about it for now. To be honest, most people don't need to know much more anyway.
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LOOT can also be launched with the --game=<game folder name> command line parameter to set the game to run for. If the supplied game folder name is valid, the default and last game values are ignored. The default folder names are Oblivion , Skyrim , Fallout3 , FalloutNV and Fallout4 .How do I manually add mods to mod Organizer 2? ›
- Unless instructed otherwise by the guide, download a mod's latest main file using the Mod Manager Download button.
- Once the download has finished, open Downloads tab in MO2 (Right pane, below executable selector).
- Double click on the mod to install it.
- Enable the mod on the left pane.
In short, it means that the mod is overwriting another mod (plus), being overridden (minus), or both (plus and minus). It's basically a shorthand way of seeing if a mod's resource files are conflicting with another mod.Can you manually change load order in loot? ›
Users can supply metadata themselves to alter the order LOOT gives. There are two types of metadata that can be supplied to change load order: 'Load After' entries can be used for pairs of specific plugins. Plugin groups can be used when the plugin needs to load before or after many other plugins.How does loot earn? ›
Loot boxes that players have to purchase with real-world money to engage with are implemented by companies as monetisation methods in video games, known as 'microtransactions,' which represent an alternative, or complementary, business model to selling copies of the software or providing subscription-based services [10 ...Does loot sort load order? ›
To improve performance, LOOT actually sorts using two graphs: one for master-flagged plugins and one for the other plugins, and then appends the latter's sorted order to the former's sorted order to give the complete sorted load order.How do I use auto loot? ›
To use Auto Loot, tap the Auto Loot key (default "H") once, and any piece of dropped gear will instantly be teleported into your inventory.How do I turn on auto loot? ›
Autoloot was introduced in patch 1.9. 0. If you <Shift>+click on a mob, chest, or other container that has items, you will automatically loot all non-bind-on-acquire items. You can also use the same method to automatically skin an animal, mine a vein, and harvest some herbs.How do I activate easy loot? ›
Horizon Forbidden West's Easy Loot mode is located in the Settings menu under the General tab. Pause the game, select settings, then general, then set the difficulty to custom. By setting a custom difficulty, players can change the challenges of their experience through a variety of options.Where do I install mods manually? ›
- Find a mod to download.
- Download the ZIP file. Do not extract.
- Open your Userfolder.
- Create a folder named mods (if you don't have one already)
- Drag and drop the ZIP file into this folder.
- The mod should now appear in your Mod Manager (if it does not contain errors)
Any mods installed via a mod manager will work offline as long as you have Steam running in offline mode.Does mod organizer 2 have script extender? ›
Plug and play installation, everything configured out of the box for games installed directly from Steam or using Wine. Already contains Script Extender and tweaks to work with ENBs (with limitations on Skyrim SE and Fallout 4).What does Z mean in flags? ›
The Z flag is also known as Zulu flag. The Z flag displayed to indicate that the boats are starting to be racing. The flag displayed with a sound signal and lowered with a beep. The Z flag displayed alongside the flag of India as the preparatory signal.What does F3 mean on flag? ›
The F3 name is an initialism, which stands for fitness, fellowship and faith, referring to the group's three organizing principles.What is a black flag in f2? ›
The black flag indicates a driver is disqualified in an FIA-sanctioned race, or orders a driver to the pits in NASCAR and IndyCar.How do I manually install Minecraft mods? ›
- Install Minecraft Forge. The most popular modding add-on is Minecraft Forge. ...
- Download the Mods You Want. The next step involves downloading Minecraft mods. ...
- Copy the Mod to the /mods Folder. It's time to install some Minecraft mods. ...
- Check the Mod Installation.
For downloading, installing, and managing Skyrim Special Edition mods, we recommend Vortex. It's simple to use, and it works with a number of other games like the Fallout series, the Witcher series, Darks Souls, XCOM 2, and lots more.How do you make an empty mod? ›
The easiest way is to create new mod (right click -> All mods -> Create empty mod) and move everything from Overwrite folder there. At the end, you need to activate the folder in left panel.What does update masterlist do in loot? ›
The masterlist update process updates the active game's masterlist to the latest revision at the location given by the game's masterlist repository settings. By default, sorting first updates the masterlist. LOOT then calculates a load order for your plugins, using their internal data and any metadata they may have.What is a loot meta tag? ›
LOOT uses metadata to supply plugins with messages and Bash Tag suggestions, and to help it sort plugins that it can't otherwise sort correctly. Users can add to their plugins' metadata through each plugin's metadata editor panel, and plugins with user metadata are indicated with a Has User Metadata icon.
Users can add to their plugins' metadata through the metadata editor panel, and plugins with user metadata are indicated with a “Has User Metadata” icon. The editor panel is accessed by selecting a plugin in the sidebar and then clicking the “Edit Metadata” item in the Plugin menu.Is Loot Up legit? ›
LootUp is a Get-Paid-To (GPT) site that will reward you for completing simple tasks. It is indeed a legit site since you will really be able to earn from doing the said tasks.Are loot boxes like gambling? ›
The government believed that, although loot boxes had some similarities with gambling, an important distinction was the ability to “cash out rewards”. The government said that a loot box prize “does not normally have real world monetary value outside of the game”.Are loot crates random? ›
In video games, a loot box (also called a loot crate or prize crate) is a consumable virtual item which can be redeemed to receive a randomised selection of further virtual items, or loot, ranging from simple customization options for a player's avatar or character to game-changing equipment such as weapons and armor.Does loot detector show caches? ›
Yes. Anything that helps increase your Loot Radar radius will also show caches. They will look like generic containers on the minimap, so you have to check them manually.Is loot good for sorting mods? ›
Setting the right load order for your mods is a crucial step to enjoying a stable modded game. The Load Order Optimisation Tool (LOOT) can help with that, by providing automated load order sorting that's simple to use and fully customisable.What is auto loot? ›
Autoloot is a feature in Rank-Up Survival Dungeon that allows players to re-collect the rewards they've won in the previous nodes. Players will know what they will get, but need to be strategic since the price increases the more it is used.How do you set loot specialization? ›
right click on your nameplate, go down to loot spec and set it from there.What is the loot app on my phone? ›
Loot helps you calculate how long it will take you to save for your goal based on the amount you want put away. A savings plan is created for you and you'll receive push notifications to keep you on track. FEATURES: - Save by week, fortnight or month.How do you roll for loot? ›
Players can roll manually by typing /roll , which generates a random number and displays it in a system message that group members and nearby players can see. Manual rolls are commonly used in raids where a master looter distributes loot.
Stormbird Storm Cannon is a legendary resource in Horizon Forbidden West. Obtained only from Stormbirds, it must be torn off with Tear damage before the machine is destroyed if "easy loot" is turned off in settings. Alternatively, it can be purchased once from Untalla in the Memorial Grove.How do you get Clamberjaw tails? ›
Clamberjaw Tail Duster is a rare resource in Horizon Forbidden West. Obtained only from Clamberjaws, it must be torn off with Tear damage before the machine is destroyed. Alternatively, it can be purchased from select Hunters or from Danur, one of Keruf's salvagers.How do you make money on G loot? ›
G-Loot is a PC app that allows you to earn money by competing in the games you love. If you are a competitive person, you can rack in great rewards from placing high in the leaderboards of your preferred games.Is it legal to install mods? ›
Are mods illegal? Modding's legality varies from country to country. In the UK and US it isn't strictly illegal, as long as it doesn't infringe on a game's copyright – but to platforms and developers there can be a fine line between modding and hacking.What app can i use to download mods? ›
- Android Hackers.
- From the Minecraft launcher, enter the Installations tab at the top.
- Hover over your Forge installation, then press the Open Folder icon to the right.
- In the new window, locate or create the mods folder, then enter it.
- Paste the mod .jar file(s) from earlier into this location.
You do not have to be constantly connected to internet to play with mods - you only need to be connected when you start the game ( load to the main menu ), after that, untill you close the game, you can play without internet connection just fine.Can you play Skyrim without WIFI? ›
You do not need the Internet or Xbox Live to play The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.How do I install Requiem with mod organizer? ›
Install Requiem like any other mod by double-clicking it in Downloads tab. Follow the instructions of the installer and select the additional options you want. Activate Requiem in your list of installed mods and move the plugins to the end of your load order.Does mod organizer 2 work with steam? ›
To use Game Mode, ModOrganizer 2 is started by launching your game with SteamTinkerLaunch. You will be prompted after starting your game to use ModOrganizer to in MO2 GUI mode. You can start ModOrganizer 2 through Game Mode by either enabling ModOrganizer 2 in the Game Menu, or using a Steam Collection.
You may also need to unblock all *.exe and *. dll files in the Mod Organizer folder. The easiest and recommended method is to download Mod Organizer from Nexus (or #builds on discord) to a hard drive on your PC, right click on the ZIP file you downloaded, and unblock the ZIP file before you extract the files.How do you use the loot council? ›
Loot council is a relatively simple way to distribute loot. Whenever an item is involved in the loot system, a group of individuals decides who gets the item. Ideally, this group of individuals takes into consideration several different factors, ranging from attendance, performance, size of upgrade, and attitude.What does loot do for mods? ›
While sorting, LOOT checks for load order errors (such as incompatibilities and missing requirements) and notifies you of any issues that it detects. It also provides thousands of plugin-specific messages, such as usage notes and bug warnings, to help keep your game healthy.How do loot tables work in Mcreator? ›
Loot table pool: A loot table pool is a group of blocks/items or a single block/item. When the game has to use the loot table, it will take a random number of blocks/items of each pool (between the minimum and maximum you have set). You can put as many pools as you want in one loot table.How do you find the ID of a modded item? ›
You can press F3 + H which will enable tooltips. You can now hover over an item or block to see its id.How should I arrange my load order in Skyrim? ›
How should I organize my load order in Skyrim Special Edition on the Xbox One? One general rule of thumb is to organize your mods into "categories" and to place larger mods that affect more assets/aspects of the game ABOVE smaller mods within the same "category" that affect less assets/aspects of the game.How does loot in M+ work? ›
At the end of a successful run, a chest will appear that all players can loot. Two pieces of loot are guaranteed, which will be randomly assigned to two players. If the dungeon is not completed in time, the second piece of gear will have it's item level lowered.What does DKP mean WoW? ›
Dragon kill points or DKP are a semi-formal score-keeping system (loot system) used by guilds in massively multiplayer online games. Players in these games are faced with large scale challenges, or raids, which may only be surmounted through the concerted effort of dozens of players at a time.What is loot command? ›
The /loot spawn command allows creators to drop the loot of any entity that has a defined loot table into the world. This can be done with custom loot tables as well.What does the loot bag do? ›
Loot Bag will appear on the Gungeoneer's back. Picking up Loot Bag increases the chance of finding the other Payday 2 items, Drill and Clown Mask.
The loot tables of mobs and containers can be altered with /execute store and /data . The player could also grant a loot table to an entity or drop it in the world with /loot .